Sep 10
If you're new here, you may want to Subscribe to Amway Global Blog by Email
A source tells me that Brad Wolgamott may still be building the Amway Global business, just no longer with WWDB.
We will keep you posted as information becomes available.
I don’t know, this kinda stuff always traces back to one thing … come on you know what I’m talking about.
Same old thing just different people as time keeps marching on … you’ve heard the story, rich guy on stage with money and tons of young girls looking at him and listening to him talk. one thing leads to another. Dave Letterman anyone?
Duncan’s and worldwide just don’t want all the downline to breakoff and leave the money pumping WWDB tool system so they’re keeping the real issues under cover for as long as possible. People are smart however so they can play this little game, just like their whole WWDB tools biz is scam game they have been playing for years.
Yep, tick-tock I would put $ on it here … how long does it take the internet to know the truth these days?
Brad probably got frustrated with the old antiquated wwdb practices. WWDB lost.. Now they got all old geisers that continue to spew the same rubbish they been spewing for the past 20 years…
where are the new diamonds??? NADA
As for the stinkin comment on New Diamonds and blah blah blah. Id like to see one of these hard pressed, anti success, not willing to put there background and personal life on a blog comment on something they haven’t and are not willing to do. All of these comments about people building a business utilyzing Amway Global make no sense. Who in their right mind (key point) bases their success on someone elses? Why follow a man, or woman. Follow moral principles and (oh no! He’s gonna say something based on the bible!) Biblical principles. Success principles cannot be broken, the truth is always simple, never complicated. Spend all your possible productive time bashing people that have nothing to do with Your success in life (which is relative), when you can spend that time and do something positive for your life and society. Want to comment on new diamonds? Go out and do it and then you can be one of them. Until then, (I mean this politely) you have no room to talk.
WWDB is in serious trouble. Look at the fruit on the tree. I was active in WWDB for 5 years, left and now earn a multiple six figure income and I helped 22 people earn BMW’s in the last 12 months.
The WWDB system is seriously broken. Greg Duncan Bankrupt, David Shores Foreclosure, Puryear selling River House, FED numbers were way down, they couldn’t even bring in the Goads. Now one of the best speakers in WWDB (Wolgamott) is gone. Take the blinders off and look around.
I agree with Ty. Plus, the troubles that Ty mentions might just be the tip of the iceberg. Potraying an illusion of wealth can be expensive afterall.
You know nothing of which you speak. Brad and Leslie Wolgamott are going through a divorce, and it would be inappropriate for them to continue with their business together. The River House is for sale since Brad Duncan is slowly taking more leadership of World Wide, while Ron Puryear is going fiscally liquid. The Goads were replaced by a different band, long ago. This blog is complete gossip. You could try owning your own life before you make assumptions about other people, companies, or groups. Maybe next time you shouldn’t cast so many stones? God Bless.
We can assume that Greg Duncan is not taking much leadership since the whole Bankruptcy thing, eh?
bshg… the line of sponsorship does have something to do with your life..they dictate how you run your business.. duh wakeup you are ambotized
WWDB is dead… same people saying the same thing year after year… want a above average income… go diamond… and sacrafice life doing it..
Mr. Tribble – I am not posting this to confirm nor deny what you are saying, but obviously we know that you CAN make a good amount of money with Amway regardless of what some of its members’ business practices are. But the one thing I wanted to point out to you when you said something about them not being able to afford the Goads to come out ( I was never a big fan of them anyway ). It is not because they can not afford them, it is because one of the Goads DIED. No offense sir, but please do more research and have some more respect, especially when you are trying to tarnish people’s reputation.
So everyone is worried about the Diamonds making money from the cds/books, building materials ect. Let me help take away the mystery,it says so at the end of the cds, “income may be reflected from the use and sale of training material!” So what……….
Justin Timberlake, Beyonce, Jay-z, Linkin Park, Nickelback, to name a few, are these not artist who sing, but also have cds out there that they make money off of? Because of these sales they are able to live like no one else, on credit or not? Do they not sell and promote and make appearances to help push their product!? I am not taking anything away from them, but my point is this, these Diamonds are doing the same thing. They tell their story, or have their experiences on how to build the Amway Global opportunity put on cd, and then they are sold, so what…………
Sponsoring, endorsing, call it what you want! Is it not true Dr. Dre went out and sponsored some up and coming singers, and out of that bunch, a guy by the name of Eminem rose up and started his run, and from that Eminem endorsed a few guys because he knew how to become successful, and from his batched of guys came a fellow by the name of 50 cent! Wait……..50 cent saw what Eminem did and was thankful for his opportunity, so he went out and sought after some talent to develop, and boom, found G-unit…………We sponsor, and endorse, and in the Amway Global business it is no different. Someone has gone before me and is showing the ropes, just like the example I gave. And now a days, Like Sean “Puffy” Combs, that is all they do, search for talent, sign them, and create a residue based income because of percentages, and there is only on P-Diddy, and he ain’t getting any younger, so he duplicated himself, and has become very profitable because of it has he not?
Someone said it on this blog or another one I read, but I feel it is true. Don’t build Amway if you feel the way you do, but encourage the people that are, they are becoming better citizens in the process. I am not the same person, call it whatever you want, but I think differently and want different things for my life that regardless if I quit or make it big, I will never be normal, but the principles stay the same.
Frank Radford is still married to Lynn Radford. Howie Danzik and Theresa Danzik are still married.
Went to FED and I couldn’t find a seat it was so packed.
Brad Duncan new Crown
And to top off success, my platinum just retired at age 32, and I witnessed it, my sponsor is as well, so my line of sponsorship works or something cause people are leaving there jobs and I am getting up to go to mine!
The 6-4-2 plan or your sponsor never talks about where the majority of the money they earn comes from do they? Be honest. That is all people want to know. You hide it and it becomes an issue whether it is justifiable or not.
I was an ex-ibo DL in the G Duncan organization. Also, achieved DD aka Platinum, Q12, Ruby level for several years breaking dl directs. I can tell you all that upline Diamonds made majority of their $$ through books, tapes (CDs) and functions. The WWDB system is a farce and all their teachings of 6-4-2 and any of their latest spins on an antiquated system are hogwash.
In terms of “open” discussion with upline on your future in achieving Diamond level, that attitude was always “get to that level and then we’ll talk” – Even when achieving the Platinum level, upline will not disclose minimal info (need to know basis) to you regarding tape/cd/book breaks, etc. Know this limited info, you can use some deductive reasoning and deduce that upline will also get “more $$$ perks” wrt functions, etc.
The biggest issue I’ve always had with this “need to know bases” info only when you attain a level such as Platinum, and above, is how in the heck can one plan for one’s own long term for their future, retiring as a WWDB Diamond, or for that matter even at the Ruby level – we’ve all heard and seen how there were distributor’s (Ruby’s) such as Dean Kosage, Rod Jao that “retired” at these lower levels.
ANSWER? You can’t! Not without knowing what the parameters are and how to plan in advance. Upline would never answer my questions related to the long term parameters. The only reply I’d get from upline was “just keep doing what your doing, and you’ll go Diamond”. Well, coming from a successful financial background (I am no spring chicken), this regurgitated answer month after month, year after year, didnt cut it for me.
The reality is this: They get you in, you build a level of business that’s solid or close to it – ie. Platinum level, and then if you decide that you don’t like what they teach or how the WWDB program works, your upline will work around you and literally “dismember” your business so that they can inherit all YOUR HARD WORK and leave you in the dust.
How do I know this?
I spoken to many ex-platinum IBOs I’ve gotten to know and built friendships with, locally, in Washington State and Calif. and the stories I’ve heard from them are all similar. Upline Diamond coming into attempt to convince them the “vital” importance of books, cds and functions (attend ALL functions) and if that did not work, then a more aggressive arm twisting through misinformation to the DL tactics would erupt. In some cases, upline Diamond literally comes in one-to-one and uses “subtle” words to push you aside.
So those defending the “system”, I have no anomosity against you personally. What you need to do is keep your eyes wide open and not “eyes wide open shut” like many platinums + did and still do.
Guaranteed, you get rid of the huge money making aspect of the books, cds and functions in these groups and your Diamond, even emeralds with be in the rough.
To “The Truth”
Yes Frank and Lynn are together, but after Frank and his OTHER wife Sheila went emerald. I’ve been to their seminar/rally.
Yes Howie and Teresa are still together, but after Howie and his OTHER wife Susan went emerald, and I sort of remember diamond, but I had their emerald tape, and went to their functions.
I’ve lost track of the number of high profile “couples” where one, or the other, has gone on as a “single”, or a new “couple”. Kosage, Wolgamott, Grosvenor, Danzik, Radford, Brooks, Plishke, Meier. And these are only the ones I’m aware of, and only in world-wide.
I was in the business for ten years, and I’ve been out of the business almost as long, and here I am, still reading blogs, still not knowing how I feel about these people. I’m a waaay better person, with waaay better self image, than when I got in it, and make a 6 figure income. However, I know that some people lied. I watched as people “disappeared” from the business, with no explanation, or worse with explanations of lost dreams, or worse. I know that many of my “lifelong friends”, including the best man at my wedding, are now nowhere to be found. I have seen and heard with my own eyes and ears, as these leaders and others talked about their great marriages, fidelity, sacrifice, and commitment to each other and to their uplines. And then watched them leave their spouses, cheat on their spouses, leave their uplines, and leave their businesses. But I still “feel” close to some of them. And I still owe them for many of the things and attitudes I learned from them. And I still hate them for their failures and lies. In other words. I’m in a constant state of love/hate, even after all these years. So, to those in the business, good luck and be careful. To those not in it, it’s not all bad.
WWDB is going down… really fast. This is long way overdue , I was in WWDB early 2000 and I was able to build a huge profitable biz, I believed in the system , 9 steps of CORE ( AKA do everything and be fanatical and you’ll make it ) building the biz like there’s no tomorrow.
Until I started to see the hidden and things DIAMONDS don’t want you to see or notice. Functions are too expensive 250$ plus for family reunion only to be booked at a dirty motel, CDs why would you pay for a cd that you already heard from a major function., Videos, Premiere membership is the biggest joke paying for a basic site for 50 $ a month , etc etc , became very expensive. Product pick up is a hassle.
The traditional way of building the business is a stupid way to build it, with all the rules and unrealistic expectation from members. It became more of a social club with lots of limitations and rules and member just cannot function creatively. Cross-lining is the worst, why cant I hangout with my cross line friend… women are not allowed to wear pants, suit and tie on a very hot day, seminar rally for hours and hours, talking about the same thing over and over.
Brad Duncan became so rich and big the business that he cannot relate anymore. He talks about Mexico and trips again and again. Plans for 3 -4 hours talking about the same thing for years.
I decided to quit WWDB few years ago when my up line Timothy Hoefer left his wife for his down line’s wife. Who happened to be his massage therapist? Tim Hoefer divorced his wife to merry his massage therapist (Julie Finkhouse, her ex-husband (MARK FINKHOUSE) stayed with the biz for a while)
I got out of WWG and waited for things to happen, I followed Brad Wolgamott for a while in myspace and Facebook, early 2010 he launched his new system and decided to connect with him…
Brad Wolgamott made the right decision to leave… he established a new business building platform and integrated the new trend and technology. With his new business model you can build the business online, on your iphone, no multiple list of rules, there’s only but one (THE GOLDEN RULE).
A new information is spreading like a wild fire,,, DEAN KOSAGE is rumored to be leave WWDB soon……………. what does that tell you ???????
“The Truth” you’re in LALA land right now. I hope sometime soon , you’ll be able to see the TRUTH ..
Funhy, WWDB apologists deny that some or all of this is happening. LOL
you’re right about that Joecool, funny thing about the WWDB organization is that, they got so good manipulating people and getting in to their member’s brains.once you get so into the whole CORE, and WWDB kind of business building, people seem to get so hypnotized by it. Reality doesnt matter anymore. I know there’s dreams and goals but unrealistic dreams and goals are just pure Hallucination.
Being in WWDB organization is nothing different from being in a CULT and GANG… believe that ….
Im an IBO,..Its awesome and so worth it. But negative people will say things to justify what they havent done. Because thier weak and have no ambition to create a business that works. They are lazy. Which is why they are the 95% who fail. Ask yourself if they have the lifestyle you want. If they do then listen to them and ask how they did it. If they dont then ask why they dont have that lifestyle. Usually people with no money say negative and skeptic things,and are still broke. Still hanging with broke people with bad relationships,leased cars,with a huge morgage and get wasted every weekend as a stress relif. Talk to the ones who have what you want,..dont listen to the people that have nothing except this blog.
I own this blog and helped 40 people earn bmws in my downline in the last 9 months. I drive a $125,000 car (no car payment) and have another seven people on pace to earn six figures in the next few months. You want fruit on the tree? How about no less than 30 people in my downline over the last 12 months making over 60k part time. I’ll compare my numbers to your diamond anytime.
Also its not a cult or pyramid scam,.. a job is a pyarmid scam, your boss makes more money then you and you will never make more money then him. But jobs exist so government gets paid. But in this business i can build it bigger then Any diamond. Why? Because if my sponsor sponsored me only and if i sponsored ten people,..i would make way more then my sponsor. Thats not a pyramid scam. Plus if it is a cult or pyimid, how has it been around for 50 years? and makes 8.5 billion a year debt free. And is still doing business in 80 countries. Shouldnt the gov. shut it down if its bad? How does a “bad” cult business own The Orlando Magic basketball arena,AMWAY CENTER. Weird,.. how is it that pro athletes join amway and build business’s if its bad? Weird how a cult donates to One by One Campaign for Children. Wow they are sooo bad *Sarcism*, helping unfortunate kids. Thats so bad, that stupid cult.*more Sarcism* And Amway donates $100000 to Haiti earthquake disaster relief. Man why are they helping people. Does your job do that. Nope it sure doesnt. Do you do that? Well you should. Cause if we all worked together then good things will happen. I would love to see you grow and give to the world instead of being selfish.Check out http://blogs.amway.com/amwayinsider/category/awards/
or
Other Facts from http://www.amwaywiki.com/Awards_and_Recognitions
Amway Russia named one of Russia’s largest companies
Alticor named America’s 39th largest private company
Nutrilite – Most Trusted Brand China 2009
Amway’s cleaning products certified as Designed for the Environment
Amway recognized as a US Environmental Protection Agency Climate Leader
Amway wins Gulfstream Aerospace Outstanding Flight Award
Amway’s Candace Matthews named Black Executive of the Year, United States
Artistry Creme Luxury wins Glosscars Best New Age Management Product, Australia
Amway named of one China’s top consumer brands
Amway named one of Korea’s favorite foreign companies
Nutrilite Positrim named “Favorite of Consumers” in the Weightloss Supplements category, Ukraine
Artistry named “Favorite of Consumers” in the Skin Care category, Ukraine
eSpring named a “Best Buy” in the Premium Water Filter category by Consumer Digest, United States
Nutrilite Sports drink deemed “superlative for recovery” by New York Times reviewer
Amway Global ranked #1 online Health & Beauty retailer by Internet Retailer
Nutrilite – Most Trusted Brand Asia 2009
eSpring – Most Trusted Brand Asia 2009
Amway’s Atmosphere Becomes The First Air Cleaner Certified Asthma and Allergy friendly
ARTISTRY™ Creme LuXury Nominated For UK Beauty Awards 2009
Nutrilite Top’s Consumer Labs’ Satisfaction Survey again
Nutrilite Valerian & Hopps rated Best in Class by Men’s Health
Amway China recognized for Excellent Corporate Social Responsibility by China Enterprise News
Consumer Reports recognize Amway for excellence in “green” packaging
Nutrilite – Most Trusted Brand Malaysia 2009
eSpring – Most Trusted Brand Malaysia 2009
Nutrilite – Most Trusted Brand Taiwan 2009
eSpring – Most Trusted Brand Taiwan 2009
eSpring – Most Trusted Brand Thailand 2009
2009 PRoof Awards – Gold Award, Special Public Relations – Artistry for the Skin Diaries Editor Event
Amway Korea wins Korean Marketing Association Frontier Award
Amway rated a “Global Power in Retailing” by Deloitte
2008
My last comment was before i saw your post.
TY Its great if you can help people like that. Good on ya.
Leonard Kim has 400 diamonds under him. So you can build it anyway you want. And thats 400 people making 600000+ a year. Thats alot of people he helped. He could have stopped after 12. But it wasnt about the money. He wanted to help people get wealth. Thats Heart. Thats soemthing i want to give to people. And you probably do to. So keep on it. Im just sick of people dissing it. Cause i know it works. It might not work for others, but what you do might. Its people prefrence. I gotta get off here. Gotta do some reading.
No offense mark but if you have been told that Leonard kims diamonds make 600k a year, you have been lied to. I hear a lot about Korean diamonds but where is the u.s. success? Wwdb has less diamonds today than they had 15 years ago. You keep saying you know it works then you talk about the Orlando magic and Haiti fund. Those things make no difference in wwdb working for you or anyone new in the last 10 years. You don’t have to answer but think about how long you’ve been in wwdb and how much was your last bonus check…that’s where the rubber meets the road.
A founders diamond with the proper parameters and ruby side volume would net 600k/yr
Why don’t you call Amway and see if that is true.
Mark , your so funny. Amway company truly has been around for 50 years. Amway is not the cult. its the Training system and organizations like World Wide Group AKA Brad Duncan and Ron Puryear traditional, republican,conservative,old way building the business model.
Ask Brad how WWDB diamonds made money when Amway sales didnt make that much. MAGIC answer >>>>>>>> tools, Standing order, Seminars, Functions and the lists goes on ………
Ask him why CROSSLINING is a BIG NO NO. Because WWDB system promotes dependency. thats why Kosage and Wolgamott left .. what do you say about that !!!???
Mark-
Come on man, “not about the money”? You are choosing to be a sucker if you’re justifying your involvement with silly statements like that.
You justify the lies because you simply think your turn to make the big bucks is around the corner and if you didn’t have thoughts of money than you wouldn’t be involved. Just like everyone.
No, these leaders are not “more blessed by God” because of their efforts in an MLM and people can see through the used-car-salesman style of these swindlers… you’re simply choosing to ignore the obvious because you want the big payday to come for you … you’ll change your tune when you take the time to realize they have multiple ways they make money off you yet they just aren’t sharing those true income streams with simply IBOs such as yourself.
BSM groups like WWDB cost you about 3-5k extra that you could be teaching your downline to spend on products (you know products, the only things you personally make money on!). But the BSM leaders will teach you that it’s all about tool use and function attendance (the things they make money on and lie to you about. WWDB is a For Profit company).
There is a side pyramid that your money is funding when you buy tools and functions, but you don’t get a part of those profits and the biggest bummer is that you will go and spend all your time with new people and bring them into a system that will teach them to focus on tool consumption too … bad for you because your business would have been better off if they would have used that same money to buy things YOU get paid on rather than things only the leaders of the BSM group get paid on.
Be careful, you’re saying all the things that tell me you’re a couple years away to coming to your senses … meaning a couple years of 3-5k down the drain and into the pockets of the BSM group leaders.
The end is that the deck is completely stacked against you, you see the warning signs but choose to ignore because you want your turn with the payday, and the BSM groups love money more than they care about telling the truth about the fact that their LLC is a for profit company and they should come clean to the regular IBOs. They serve money, they lie for money, and they are slaves to money.
Brad Wolgamott on facebook. Is this a jab at WWDB?
Bradley Wolgamott “Many are told to continue follow and keep doing what they are doing; becoming better and better at following but never learn to lead. In fact, being told is not to think, just listen and follow. Follow instructions, follow directions, follow the pack, do what they tell you, they did to get where they are at. “Tired men and bored women!” boring ideas don’t spread and boring organizations don’t grow”